This is December the 10th, the first hour of lecture. Today we have quite a bit of material to cover here, and I believe I should cover for you – in some detail such things as flows and brackets and so on. I… I think that would be helpful to you.

This is the second hour, December the 10th, afternoon.

The… the uh… flow action is what I mean by covering some more about flows. How many actions are there in a flow? And in interpersonal relationships, how many interactions take place amongst flows?

Now in the… in the whole action of flows, you will find quite a dissertation on this subject in Technique 88 – some more data on it, Technique 80. You’ll find a lot of stuff on this. And there isn’t any reason why I should go into this stuff again and break it all down one way or the other, but I probably ought to give it a rapid sketch.

Well, now, I’m going to work that out here. I haven’t counted them for some time, but there’re quite a few. But you should know this pattern of interaction. If you don’t know this pattern of interaction, you can slip your preclear into a boil-off. Why? Very simple. Because any flow run too long in one direction will result in a boil-off. Any flow.

When we say ‘Flow’, we mean a change of position of particle in space. That’s all it is. The speed that it changes has a great deal to do with its relationship to the space. As you well know, you do not change a big particle in a small space in a rapid time – because a big particle in a small space is a stretch of time itself.

What is a boil-off? It is a state of unconsciousness produced by a confusion of effort impinging upon one area. It is a slow-motion unconsciousness. The fellow doesn’t go out because of a direct blow; he simply slides out gradually and rather painlessly, because of a small application.

Now your big particle could be the Woolworth Building, or the Empire State Building; you can just treat that as a composite particle – an object. You don’t have to worry about calling – whether this thing is the size of an atom or the size of an electron. We’re not interested in size. We’re only interested in how big you think it is.

If you were to take somebody on an operating table and simply press them with… or press upon them a heavy pressure and keep that pressure getting a little heavier and a little heavier and a little heavier, they’d pass out. It’s the aggregate pressure of one sort or another that causes this boil-off.

Now you think the Empire State Building in a space would be a large particle. Actually, you could theoretically make up a flow which would be a good, fast flow of Empire States Buildings, changing position in space.

How do you stop a boil-off? You simply reverse the flow line. If you notice your preclear starting to boil off, get something in the mock-up or whatever you’re doing – see, this applies to mock-ups – get it to go around and flow the opposite direction.

Or you could have a good fast flow – see, particle – this… what… what… what do you agree the relationship is? It’s relative – relative size. You think you’re this big. And therefore you think that’s that big, and you think you are capable of lifting a pound weight, or a ten pound weight – some human beings could even lift a twelve pound weight. Uh… you… you say, well therefore that is relatively light, you say. But a 200, 500, a 1000 pound weight, these things are relatively heavy. What you’re saying is… is not light or heavy, you’re not even saying the action of gravity upon this. What you’re saying is, „My concept of what I can handle.“ If you had a concept that a hundred thousand tons was a light weight and pocket-size, of course, your amount of SPACE would have to be quite large. And your concept of yourself would have to be quite big. And sure enough, you could use it. for a pocket charm.

Now, sometimes you’ll be rather mystified in a mock-up. Your fellow’s running mock-ups and he starts to pass out. And he passes out again and he passes out again, and you say, „Put it behind you; put it in front of you; put it over to the side,“ and he keeps passing out. Well, just keep feeding him mock-ups. That is the remedy for that. If he gets excited while you’re feeding him mock-ups, feed him more mock-ups.

You see, we… you could put this planet in your vest pocket. Really, uh… if your… if your… if your idea of size…

But don’t, under any circumstances, suddenly plunge in and reverse – the formula Scientology 8-8008 and suddenly go into that great stuff, that wonderful stuff called ‘reality’, because you’ll knock him flat if you do that, and you could really foul him up like a fire drill. If you suddenly start running mock-ups and then suddenly insist on… It becomes much worse than if you were just running facsimiles and locks and so forth; he’d get better if you were doing that. But you’ve started him on one course and now you’ve suddenly reversed direction on him and you’re putting him back into this universe and you’re giving him less freedom than he had before.

Now, therefore, we could say here is a pa… a particle flow, and each particle in it is the size of Jupiter. And it’s going like hell in this little light flow and we would go on and talk about it there. Or maybe if we’re in some other universe, maybe we would be saying that. You’d say, „This is a little place named the MEST universe. You can look in there sometimes. But you sort of have to get down on one knee, and then you see this vague blur of stars.“

All right. The fellow will start to slide out. You give him mock-ups, he starts to slide out on a boil-off and slide out on a boil-off, and you put mock-ups behind him and above him and below him. You can just make up your mind that some kind of a flow has started to run out of an actual facsimile and it keeps slugging him and he can’t do anything about it, and evidently you can’t do anything about it.

There isn’t any reason why you, personally, couldn’t have that viewpoint. You see, there’s nothing blocking you from having that viewpoint. You go through these techniques, you’ll ATTAIN viewpoints something to that direction.

What ‘is the answer to that? It’s just give him more mock-ups. Don’t worry about it. But normally, if your preclear is groggy, you’ve just got the thing running the wrong way. If you have him doing something to somebody and he keeps boiling off, why, the probability is that he has overrun the DED or the DEDEX.

One day you’ve got a speck in your cereal; you’ve decided in your universe to eat cereal or something so that you can read the boxes. And uh… you’re… you have this… this speck there. And there’s that speck, and you pick up that speck and you don’t know quite how it got there, but you flip it off on to the floor and stamp on it. That was the MEST universe! Now Man can get some very funny ideas about this. A fellow can… a fellow can sit down and think of himself as being just this tiny – oh boy, this is what they try to do! Oh, this is the control operation beyond control operations. They get you to sit down and think very hard about how utterly insignificant you must be to be crawling on the face of a very small planet which is running around a very small star, which is in one of the smaller galaxies, and all of these galaxies and so forth, and then your infinite smallness is almost incomprehensibly small, and that says your power is incomprehensibly small. And therefore, you’re a slave. You can’t throw off your chains because the chains, then, are infinitely heavy, see? Question of size.

Now, a DED is something that somebody did without provocation to somebody else; that is a DED. Uh… it’s a… they say, „He deserved it.“ They had no other reason to do it; they say, „He deserved it,“ so we call that a DED. Fellow, he’s never been… Joe Blink has never hurt him; Joe Blink has never done anything to him, and yet he suddenly, just out of hand one day, blows Joe Blink’s head off. Then somebody comes along… he didn’t have any reason at all. Somebody comes along and says, „Hey, uh… what… what’d you do? What… what was the idea?“

Now if we started talking about, „Now please – please give me your…“ – if I… I talked to you this way day after day – you… just… just the idea of inflow of relationships of sizes, is… is, „Please uh… please uh… come somewhere near Philadelphia in your contact with your body while you’re listening to these lectures. And uh… be rather careful about the farms – don’t step on any of the farms around here because we don’t want a commotion in this little place,“ and so on. And we went on talking along in this line as though you were a flock of giants, you know, just marching across the countryside with a thunderbolt in each uh… hand.

„Well, he deserved it.“

You know that that alone – that alone would serve to help you get some kind of idea of size. Size is largely, „What do you want to do?“ You see, that’s very silly. Size depends on what you want to do. You want to go around here and… and push change across a grocery counter, you don’t want to be bigger than the grocery store. And uh… if you want to go around and push around planets, and uh… make ‘em and break ‘em and so forth, you don’t want to be smaller than the planet. And the guy that started to run Earth would, of course, not exist, probably, in Earth space. He would be too big. He wouldn’t be standing someplace between Earth and the Moon. He just wouldn’t be there. He would be existing in his own space with a… an attack or communications point somewhere coincident.

„Well, why did he deserve it?“

Now how do you… how do you get your space, and how do you get Earth space? Well you’d be sitting there amongst your own anchor points. You wouldn’t be sitting there with Earth anchor points. In the first place it would be too confusing to keep track of Earth on its own anchor points; it’s much easier to keep track of Earth on your anchor points.

„Well, uh… he had dirty fingernails,“ or „I… I… fellow like that!“ He’ll build up a long, involved rationalization, justification as to why he did this to Joe Blink, and there is no reason.

You probably could actually center Earth over some place or another and it sounds strange, but give it and influence it into having your anchor points, and it would then be part of your universe. You want to know how your universe got taken over? Somebody gave it an anchor point, made it a big present of a nice big shiny anchor point. And it says, „Now look. Your dimensions can get smaller, your dimensions can get larger, and isn’t it interesting what you can do with these two anchor points. Now you put your anchor points convergent with our universe’s anchor points, and then these two universes will be co-visible and we will be all set then.“ And all of a sudden there was a dull flash and a boom and your anchor points and their anchor points went in total coincidence, but your universe wasn’t rigged to stand that. And then ever since you’ve been going around saying, „I wonder what happened to my universe? It’s here someplace.“

So he will do many of these things perhaps and then one day you come along the line and uh… somebody comes along and doesn’t blow his head off, but somebody taps him lightly on the temple. Well, he knew darn well he didn’t have a good reason – this universe requires reason; this universe, above all other things, must be logical. And of course it is logical, too; you saw that yesterday, with… with haves and so forth. And above all else it must be logical and non-contradictory.

Looking for that universe is a silliness beyond silliness, because you can make it all over again without any trouble whatsoever. You also had to get the idea that you could lose something which you would not be able to create again, before you could lose a universe. The only way you could ever lose anything, you see, was to get the idea that you couldn’t create it again.

And so uh… he tries to put this DEDEX ahead of Joe Blink, the DED. He tries to scramble the track and put it in a… in a logical order. Something happened to his head, therefore he did something to Joe Blink. That doesn’t work that way, so you call it DEDEX, and this could be interpreted as several things. Uh… ‘deserved action explained’ would be one interpretation of DEDEX, a DEDEX. Uh… ‘the deserved action’. This is why the action was deserved. This is why he blow… blew Joe Blink’s head off, because 20 years later a fellow by the name of Cuffbah tapped him on the temple. Well, it just doesn’t add up.

Now you want to know where your Grandma is. „She’s dead.“ No she’s not. She just lost the same anchor points. Once upon a time you and she had identical anchor points. Now you don’t have identical anchor points. She’s got some other set of anchor points. Well, because you’re still in the MEST universe, you have a… find a great difficulty in getting into anchor points with her, because you’d probably have to find some kind of proximity MEST universe anchor points.

And yet he’ll try to make it add up. He’ll go around and he’ll say, „Now, look. Look, this… this… oh, my head! I mean, I’m just having terrible pains in my head and so on, and that’s… that’s a very horrible injury,“ and if you really probed him on it, he’d say, „Well, when Joe Blink did that to me…“ You see, Joe Blink never did it to him and that’s what’s wrong with a DEDEX. It’s completely fallacious.

Well, that’s a terrific limitation. Now if you could just find Grandma, who’s probably a little kid now in pigtails, if you could just find Grandma, someplace or another, by pervasion – you just look around and find out what’s the wave length of Grandma. You’d probably finally spot her. She’s in East Podunk or someplace or other, or North Keokuk, and uh… uh… as a little kid, why her ideas are this way and that way.

And its fallacity, fallaciousness is represented by the overemphasis the individual puts upon the action that happened to him. Whenever an individual’s going around saying, „Look what’s wrong with me,“ really, what he’s really showing up is a DEDEX. He’s saying, „Look, it really happened to me and… and so forth. Therefore, I’m not guilty.“ Universes, this universe is terribly interested in justice. So he’s saying, „I’m not guilty; I’m not guilty,“ and uh… „because here, 20 years after I blew Joe Blink’s head off, somebody came along and tapped me in the temple, and that made it all right for me to blow Joe Blink’s head off,“ which it didn’t at all. So that’s your DEDEX. DEDEX.

You could probably talk with her the second that you established some sort of coincidence of anchor points. But if you were existing in your own universe time, you could throw a couple of anchor points in there and just get her to accept those two anchor points and you could talk to her. This would probably be very disturbing to her parents; they’d think she was going around associating with some spirit, or something.

Well, how do you use this in mock-ups? Nah-hah, very interesting how you use that in mock-ups. You have… you… let’s mock up George and let’s mock up Bill; now, your preclear’s George. And uh… we’ve got George and Bill out there in front in two mock-ups. And we have George picking up Bill and throwing him out the window and George picking up Bill and dumping him down the chimney and George picking up Bill and busting his face in. And George has been mighty worried about this guy, Bill, but now you have this mock-up and you give him a real workout.

Some spirit? Well, that would be somebody who was a… an auditor in Scientology and… and he… he has an office… he has an office on Park Avenue or some place or another; that would be all there was to that.

See, one of the reasons mock-ups are beneficial is because a mock-up is not an imagined action. In the past, an individual sometimes worked this out in imagination. He would think of what he would have done to Bill and he’d… and so on. And then he keeps halting from it and says, „Oh, well, I couldn’t of uh… t mean, people would’ve interfered with that, but there… I’d sure get some satisfaction out of wringing the guy’s neck. I’d just love to wring the guy’s… but I… I just couldn’t do that.“

Uh… it’s really very simple, when you come down to it.

He’s really in agreement with the MEST universe. He’s imagining it, which is entirely different than mock-ups. Imagination’s one thing; mock-up is something else. He really is putting a picture out in front of him in space which has dimension with which he is doing something. That’s a mock-up. And an imagined thing is just vague and I guess.

Now having accepted MEST universe anchor points, you wonder what happened to your memories, ‘course, you’re only willing to see what memories the MEST universe gives you if you will only accept MEST universe anchor points – hah! You get that? Do you get that nice little trick?

Now, they… so therefore the two actions are not the same. We… we don’t have… we actually have action taking place in time and space, and if it’s really done well, it’s all pegged down with anchor points. And you’ve got actual images which are taking their action out there, and they’re going through this action. And you have a flow interchange in the mock-ups, but you don’t have to have a heavy flow action.

The MEST universe says, „Now look. Here’s some anchor points, and we’re going to give you these MEST…“ – oh, it’s lovely at giving you things – it says, „going to give you these anchor points,“ and now – and what do you know? You can’t seem to remember the time that – just a few years ago – mostly because you don’t know where you were.

As you interchange this flow in the mock-ups, do you know that the basic energy pattern of your preclear shifts? You can put… you can put a detecting meter – not an E-Meter, but a… a meter which detects flows and ridges around your preclear – and put several points out here and tune them in selectively as he runs mock-ups, and what do you find? You’ll find out that every time you reduce the size of the mock-up and bring it down to a very solid, small object, that the ridges move in on him. You can see the ridges move in. And when you put… give him larger area, reverse-scale mock-ups which are going up tone scale and you’re working up tone scale and so on, the fellow’s ridges start to move out for him. In other words, your preclear is getting better off. You want those ridges out, you don’t want them in.

Have you ever been in a churchyard or passed by a public building or… or something like that and had the strange sudden feeling, „You know, I’ve been here before? I’ve gone up this road before, I’ve done this before. I belonged here before? I could swear that I’d know there’s a house right around the curve – turn down there and there’s such and so in it.“ Of course, you’re not permitted to think that because you haven’t been given these anchor points.

All right. So there is an actual flow takes place with this mock-up situation. You’re really not just using up energy and all that sort of thing. What you’re doing is shifting postulates contained in the middle of effort by demonstrating that the effort is ineffectual. There’s a lot of explanations for this; there’re a lot of reasons why mock-ups work, and they’re all good, solid reasons. They’re electronic reasons and they’re postulate reasons and there’s causation reasons and everything else. And a mock-up done right will relieve any kind of a situation.

If you were to just search a neighborhood until something looked unquestionably familiar to you, your entire past life… that life would come back – FLASH! Because it requires MEST universe anchor points. You haven’t got the anchor points, so the facsimiles are just no place as far as you’re concerned. How can you read something that isn’t any place. As long as the MEST universe gave you the anchor points, then you’d have to recover those anchor points in order to have a complete reality.

But we have, he’s… George has been mad at Bill for a long time and here he… you’ve got him bashing Bill’s head in and all of a sudden he goes ‘nyahr’. Boil-off. Well, you try to do it just a little bit more, mmm… boom. ‘What’s wrong? Well, you’ve… you’ve beat up Bill beyond the point that uh… Bill deserved it, really. Ah… what you’ve got to do now is have Bill turn around and knock the hell out of that body out there you’re calling George, and have the preclear thrown out the window and bashed in the head and dropped down chimneys and… and increased in size and decreased in size and smashed down to a small, little statue and have pins stuck in it by… by Bill.

What is reality? First thing about REALITY you would say is, „Is it agreed upon in this MEST universe?“ But let’s get a better definition for reality – a little bit better definition for reality – one that you’ll accept. This isn’t the final definition of reality, but one that you’ll accept is, „What can I perceive with clarity?“ „What can I perceive with clarity?“ would say, „What’s your reality, what’s my reality, yap-yap-yap.“ I mean, that wouldn’t have any basis on it, but you… you say, „The thing is real because I can perceive it with clarity. Or because it’s mine,“ all of these things, really, could come under the heading of Reality.

Now, this might be very indigestible to George, your preclear; he might not like this, but after a while he doesn’t give a damn what George does to that body. And uh… if you kept that up too long – if this was really a tough situation, a real tough situation, extended over many years – you would find that your preclear, if you started beating up George, the preclear, out there in front, what do you know? The preclear would eventually boil off. He’s eventually start going ‘nyahr… bong; swoop, thud’. And you’d pick him up again. Now what’s happened? Now, Bill has beaten up George too long.

We’ve… we’ve narrowed this word ‘reality’ however, to mean the MEST universe, and uh… but we’re not having too much more with it, you see, because it’s so corrupt. It is slimy and dripping with confusion. But a little bit better definition for ‘reality’ is, „What can I perceive with clarity?“ That’s just a clarification definition, it’s clearer.

Now, of course you, as the auditor, in auditing can go ahead very neatly and to that extent agree with the laws of flows. You… you could just override the laws of flows and maybe it would be better, maybe, if you did. There is no compulsion on your part, just because your preclear starts to boil, to go ahead and do something about it. Maybe your preclear, if you kept on having George beat up Bill ad infinitum, it’d… might… might work right on out, and eventually he says, „Well, to hell with it. I don’t even need to boil off over this! So the guy’s a skunk. I don’t care. And… we… he’s dead and gone. I don’t care what happens to him.“

So when you get your… get your anchor points, you can look through those facsimiles and find out what anchor points you ought to have, but don’t try to find anchor points in the facsimile, you dope! Don’t do that! There aren’t any there! How can there be an anchor point in a facsimile. Well, there can’t be anchor points in the facsimile, really, but there are pictures of anchor points in a facsimile. But if you haven’t got the anchor points to tie them down to you, then do not think that facsimile belongs to you or is yours. You don’t feel then that you – quote, „remember it“, unquote – because you don’t know, because you’ve seen a picture of an anchor point and yet you don’t have the anchor point. If you were to go find the anchor point, that whole life would go, ‘whirrr-crack’ and it’d be into full view. The MEST universe gave that anchor point.

Or, „Ha, ha, ha. I hit him in the head again.“ Uh… you… you… you’re not… remember, you’re not trying to agree with the physical universe; you’re trying to disagree with it. But in… within these limits, a preclear who is having a little bit of a rough time, something like that, you just shift the personnel around and you will find out that you’re working the situation out. You see, there’s just so many reasons why George should beat up Bill and all of a sudden you’ve flipped those things out as postulates. Now George doesn’t have any further reason to beat up Bill, but Bill is left there with all kinds of reasons why he should knock the hell out of George.

How do you cure this and how do you recover past lives? Well, I can give you a very lengthy dissertation on that. So what? They are the complete importance of Zero. Your time for action is Now and Will Be. Your time for action is Now and Will Have – not ‘had’. You haven’t got it anymore. All right, so you haven’t got it anymore.

Now, if you just quit the session at this point and you just left it at that, why, uh… what do you know? It’ll sh… it doesn’t necessarily, ‘cause you could carry this situation along to a point where the preclear just abandoned the whole species of computation. I mean, you could just beat this thing to death, „Wrong Way To Corrigan“, fly it backwards and run up against the gods and kick ‘em in the teeth and blam ‘em over the head. That doesn’t matter if you do that. I’m just giving you the mechanics of what happens. It’s not mandatory to go ahead and obey this DED-DEDEX proposition at all. But you want to know what’s happening to your preclear, I’m telling you.

Now you think there’s a lot of experience and a lot of thought and a lot of this and that and so forth. And you go back and you dig up one of these past lives and there’s such a thing as – like, „Let’s see: it is… it is page 72 or page 73 – how I find out how I round Cape Hatterus. Let me see, is it page 72 or is it page…“ Good important data – on a coast pilot that was printed a couple of hundred years ago after the sand banks… the sand banks have since shifted and everything else. So your page 72, page 73 – that publication isn’t published anymore. You wouldn’t have the publication anyway.

Very simple. You just… you get the flows going… the flow goes overt act toward Bill, overt act toward Bill, overt act toward Bill, overt act toward… snore – boil-off. You get up… get him up and you boot him around and shake him up and say, „Come on, come on, let’s get some coffee down you and get going here.“ And uh… more overt act toward Bill, more boil-off.

Or, „Am I going to get paid this Saturday,“ or, „Is she true to me?“ And of course it doesn’t matter whether or not you got paid that Saturday, and on the subject of „Is she true to me?“ – of course not!

Well, you don’t have to explain to your preclear what’s happening. You just turn around and you just have Bill… change the bodies around. You don’t want to use actual bodies any more than you have to. Use something else. It’s… it’s always preferable.

But these things are curiosa and they are amusing and they are very interesting and when a preclear cannot handle force and establish his own anchor points, they are very aberrative. That’s why they’re important. But they’re not important as subjects or facsimiles; they’re merely important because they have force on him.

The insouciance, really, of setting up this magnificent creature, Father, and then giving him a donkey’s ears and then changing ‘em off to a rapwoof’s ears. What’s a rapwoof’s ears? That’s up to the preclear. And then having father… then having father pregnant and uh… just change around the real universe, and so on, and you’ll find out that to the degree that you do that, as strange as it may seem to you, the more successful it is.

A guy goes around – gimp, gimp, gimp, gimp – and you say, „For heaven’s sakes! Why can’t that fellow walk straight?“ – gimp, gimp, gimp, gimp, gi… There’s nothing wrong with him, he’s been to all the doctors and all the doctors said, „Nothing wrong with him,“ and everybody agrees. Oh, the hell there isn’t something wrong with him! He’s got a facsimile about two hundred years old, probably somewhere down around the Nile or something, and the head hunters or somebody, or the ‘Nilists’ jumped him and cut his leg off.

It’s more successful to beat up Papa, who has uh… uh… a rupwuf’s ears and uh… is wearing uh… a St. Patrick’s Day hat and uh… snow shoes and has the body of a goatwuffer (that being a special kind of goat which grows in the 81st Universe) – it’s more successful to wham the dickens out of that mock-up than it is to take Papa’s body and mock it up, because, you see, Papa probably should’ve looked like, to the preclear, like he looks. The preclear was forced to look at Papa the way the MEST universe said he looked at Papa.

And uh… this keyed in the unfortunate fact that he once amused himself by sawing the leg off of a vestal virgin. And all of a sudden you’ve got these old force images are impacting against him because he knows he can’t handle force, and he knows force exists. Knowing those two points for sure, it of course can influence him and because he’s using a given body – not a body he created – anything can influence that body because he stole it, didn’t he?

All right. Uh… there isn’t any reason why he should look at Papa that way. He says, „That’s Papa; that’s good enough.“ Well, you know, sometimes your preclear can be very original and once in a while you’ll find a preclear doing this.

By the way, you want to find one of these young preclears that goes around the whole family, „Excuse me,“ the whole family, „excuse me – excuse me – pardon me – excuse me for living. Yes, I’ll do anything, no matter how irrational it is. Excuse me. Yes, could I do something for you? Oh, please walk on me. I’m lying right down here.“ They’re going around to this family and you say, „For Gods sakes! What’s wrong with this guy?“

„All right. I’ve got a mock-up. It’s completely empty space; that’s Papa.“

Well, two things are wrong with him. One thing I’m going to mention in a moment has to do with communication flow lines, and flow lines in general; and the other thing is they stole that body. There is an incident known as the Assumption which takes place at birth and which you run by a mock-up of grabbing babies – just… just… just mock-up a baby and have it grabbed and put some place else. And then mock-up a baby and have it grabbed. And then have the baby grabbing and… and so on. And shift this baby all around and change it to a baby monkey and a baby giraffe and a baby umbrella, and a baby tank. And then mock it back up into a baby again. And the guy will be getting the strangest feelings. He’ll be getting to get a somatic that sort of is making him go ‘crunch’ through the matter as he took his left hand and his right hand and he came in on this little baby uh… before, during or after birth, and went ‘skronk!’ And smacked the GE flat from a control mechanism or knocked anything else out that was there in the way of a thetan – this has happened to preclears, you see. Happened to thetans, see. They’ve… they’ve had the baby and then they’ve been knocked flat.

No, don’t say, „Get a mock-up,“ and get him all… Let him work with a completely empty space. That’s… that’s really… see? Nothing there. You’ve got other things there; there’s other props around, other mock-ups around and so forth, but he just insists on an empty space for Papa. Well, that’s all right. Have him turn the space blue or put some blue light in it once in a while and move it around.

And goes ‘scrunch!’ and uh… that’s you! And you walk around all after, through the family, and you know damn well that this isn’t their kid. And you say, „Excuse me, excuse me,“ and, „I’m sorry I stole the baby.“ And then horrible touching stories about little things happening to babies and babies being stolen and all of that sort of thing… these terribly touching things that you read and you feel so sad about them. The little lost orphan and all that sort of thing. The lost child and gosh, you feel more propitiative. You think you’re feeling thankful toward the family? You’re not feeling thankful toward the family? You’re trying to say, „Gosh, you know, if I act meek enough and mild enough and pleasant enough, and enough like a child should be to them, they’ll never suspect that I stole their kid.“

You’ll find out that’s quite a trick, by the way, handling empty space and knowing it’s there and then knowing it’s not there. Nothing to tell you. That’s really good; that really takes a good preclear.

That’s the Assumption. That incident.

All right. Then your DED-DEDEX action results in boil-offs. And if you want to solve these boil-offs, you reverse it and run the thing the other way to. He’s beat up Bill too long, have Bill beat up George. Have this sort of thing taking place and it’ll work out. But, with an additional proviso, there is no reason under the sun why you’ve got to play it off on a DED-DEDEX.

All right, that has to do with memories, acquisition of. Any time anything gives you something and then more or less keeps hold of what it gave you, you’re gonna have trouble. So if you’re gonna get back all the anchor points of the past, you’ll have to make better anchor points yourself. And then you could have the anchor points back of the past.

Now, your overt act motivator situation is quite different than a DED-DEDEX situation in that there’s very little blame or upset, really, in an motivator-overt act. So he got his own head knocked off, so he went down the street and he took this dear old lady and knocked her head off. Well, he had a perfectly good right.

Why? You could actually reach out and pervade any part of the universe to such a degree that the old MEST universe anchor points would show up, but what a terrific degree of certainty it would take on your part to be able to put out your anchor points in contest with the MEST universe anchor points, so that the MEST universe anchor points would suddenly be junior – all these memories would come back. All these past lives would come back. They would come back as memories should – by pervasion or cross havingness – not by a flock of facsimiles.

And you say, „Don’t you feel sorry about that?“

You can pervade an area and know what you’ve done in it. You’re still there to some degree. A man is a composite of his own experience, but that does not mean that a man is… has to be, have inflicted on him all the force he accumulated while having experience and sensation. He is a composite of experience. But he can know, you understand, without carrying facsimiles.

And he says, „No,“ he says, „I don’t feel sorry about that.“ „Why don’t you feel sorry about that?“

The thetan has an upper level of knowingness that has nothing to do with facsimiles. It’s by pervasion and approximation. He can pervade time. He actually has five ways of travelling on the time track; that’s right. I mean that’s incredible enough. He has five ways of travelling on a time track, and you often wonder why some preclears look rather strange doing what he was doing. It’s one of these five ways he’s using – let’s see if I can remember these offhand.

„Well, I got my own head knocked off once.“

It’s relatively unimportant, but I’ll just sketch them for you.

That’s justice in this universe. It’s logical, you see. Cause-effect, cause-effect. Don’t try to run it effect-cause, effect-cause. Uh-uh. That… that’s all wrong way to. Uh… and what you’re trying to do with DED-DEDEX, you see, is run it effect to a cause, and that’s just all wrong. So, your… your overt act-motivator situation, the act is… happens to the preclear and then he does it to somebody else. He really doesn’t worry about that, not very much.

There’s first, the facsimiles – the track mapped and marked and outlined and shaped by the facsimiles – the pictures he’s taken of the track. Then there is the track of the area in which he is; that is to say, you could go back in this room, you could take this spot on this planet, and theta-wise you could simply scan this track. You could pick this room up at the first moment it was ever built, for instance, and carry it on through to the day it was destroyed. You can scan that whole track – past, present, future. You can look at the total havingness of this room all in an instant, because there’s no other time than that instant, you see? There’s just the havingness of the room with the altered condition therein.

So uh… overt act-motivator situation. However, the same thing will happen on this boil-off. If you run more of an overt act than you run motivators you will get again a condition of grogginess resulting, so… because incident for incident, you’re really handling flows. And there is what you would call the whole flow of a DED, as opposed by the whole flow of a DEDEX; and the whole flow of a motivator opposing the whole flow of an overt act. You see, that’s… that’s… that’s whole flows, by incident. Your whole incident is one… one flow; you… you could say that, you see? It isn’t. That incident is composed of many, many flows, but you could break it down into these gross packages of, „This is an incident that is outgoing: it’s overt.“ And „This is an incident that is incoming: it is a motivator.“ And „This is an incident that’s outgoing: it’s a DED.“ And „This is an incident that is a… it’s incoming: therefore it’s a… a DEDEX.“ You see?

You say „It takes time to alter a condition?“ No, no. It takes a condition to alter conditions.

So, your motivator and DEDEX are incoming incidents and your… your overt act and your DEDs are outgoing incidents. Your overt act is an allowable, in the law of justice (which everybody has agreed upon); under the laws of justice, it is allowable to do an overt act. Under the laws of justice, it is not allowable to do a DED. No provocation, no motivation for an act. And the facsimiles will sit that way.

You could scan the track called ‘this room’, and you would actually be looking at ‘this room’. You would not be looking at a flock of facsimiles sitting in space. You would be looking at this room in all periods of time, so don’t be too surprised if one day you’re coming out of a session and you find yourself standing there on the beach with a… with a flock of cross-bows, cross-bowmen repelling these invaders, or something. And there’s guys swimming up through the surf. And you KNOW you’re standing there; you can feel that darned crossbow. And you say, „Wooo! I didn’t know that the invasion from Mars was going to take place. And certainly, why are these guys walking up the beach in morions?“ You’ve just grabbed off the instant momentarily; you’re near a beach. And you just picked up the scene of the beach – it didn’t happen to you at all.

So, the overt act is a whole motion out and the DED is a whole motion out. Just the intention of the action is outward, even though it has a lot of internal flows. You get how this would be. Now, your DED and… any of the rest of ‘em, overt act, DED, uh… overt, all contain a complexity of flows, and all that monitors this is what is the average of flow in the incident.

You’ve scanned up and you’ve hit a battle that had took place on this beach, and so on. And you… you’ve picked up one of the beingnesses of some of the people who were there – which is probably pretty strong. That sounds strange to you. It’s not strange and it’s nothing to worry about and it’s… certainly, you can differentiate like mad amongst these things.

Well, the average flow in the motivator, it has more inflow than it does outflow. You know, here’s a fellow, he’s standing there and somebody hits him in the head with a stone ax, and there’s a lot of inflow there. So it makes the whole incident an inflow incident. It’s predo… it’s dominated, the incident is dominated by inflow or it’s dominated by outflow. And then you can treat the whole incident as one.

And one of the trick ways of getting a preclear out of his head, is not even to ask him to step out of his head. There’s another method. You just… oh, there’s dozens of methods. But uh… all… all you tell him to do is, all right.

This is… you understand that there’s a number of flows involved in every single action. The swing of that stone ax hitting his head, the swing of the ax itself, is a complexity of flows, and I’ll show you how many here in a moment. There’s an exact number of flows. Now, any flow is an exact number.

And by the way! You can do this right now. Just shut your eyes and take a look at the room. Now take a room when… look at that when it was built, the day it was built.

All right. So, what does this add up to? This adds up to the fact that… that a guy’s whole track can be too many motivators and not enough overts. What kind of a guy do you find this fellow? He’s overt as hell. He’s got all this inflow and he’s trying to get rid of it. And he goes around and he, just for no reason at all, he’s mean and he kicks little babies in the crib and… and… and he’s just ornery and… and so on.

Now scan it on through to the day it will be dust… It’s very interesting, isn’t it? Now just reach back and find present time in this room, that’s all. Find its anchor points right at this instant. Just look around for the anchor points at this instant. You see? Now some of you could see that. And actually, if you’ll just ask the preclear – he may be blind as six bats – and you just ask him to close his eyes and take a look out from his head at the room. And at first he can’t see very much and the next thing he can’t see very much – and the next… and all of a sudden he sees a little bit better and he begins to pick up this room. And he says, „Aww, that’s darned peculiar. I am! I’m looking out through my head – where’s my head?“

And somebody says to him, somebody says to him, „Well, I think… I think your grandma is a good… good old lady, nice old lady. She’s always nice.“

You’ve selected his depth of perception and you’ve scattered him up and down in time. What’ll he do? He’ll find present time if he does this, and you can’t get him out if he’s in past time or otherwise, because this space occupancy with its points is a present time.

„Yeah. I’d like to strangle the old bat!“ You know?

So, you can scan him up. And sometimes you’ll find a preclear isn’t in his head in present time. I mean, he’s standing way back there. And all of a sudden you’ve located present time and BONG! He’s looking at the room from outside, and he’s looking at it with perfectly clear perception. And he’s looking at his body and there he is! And he’s been so much in the future or the past or scattered up in time that he hasn’t been able to orient himself or orient the body or gets… of course, that’s all a question of anchor points. He hasn’t been able to select enough anchor points to find out what he was. He walked in the door and he thought he was sitting in the chair. And… and he isn’t sitting in that chair at all; he’s sitting there halfway from there to the door, because he thinks the anchor points are some other way. His space is all messed up.

He’s running… he’s, actually, he’s a fairly safe guy to have around, if the truth be told. He’s really… he’s really safer than the other one. Why? He’s quite outspoken about it. He… he’s… he’s got an enormous reserve of motivators. He’s got all this big reserve of motivators and he’s all… got ‘em cocked there like… like crossbows. And uh… they’ll fly out in the fellow’s face, but there’s really… he can be at a lower band on the thing and have too many uh… he’d be real down in the band and still have too many motivators, only the balance has shifted again and… and… be only covert in getting rid of his motivators. He’s… he’s not safe; he’s… he’s kind of dangerous.

You scan him through from the first moment the room was built; this room – not the number of the times he was in it. But you have him take a look at the WHOLE track of this room right straight into the future.

Uh… but uh… there’s… see, there’s a harmonic action here. You… we have… we have a guy way up scale and he’s got all these motivators, and they came around and they burned his castle and they did this to him and he became a bandit; and now that he’s a bandit, God help anybody. Boy, has he got a lot of motivators.

Now the odd part of it is, you get variations from preclear to preclear on this. Why? Because things could vary the pattern of this room. It isn’t that some great designer has come along and designed it all in advance, which you are then permitted to perceive. You’ve looked at this room and you’ve looked at the general level of agreement of what is the history of this room. And that’s all this room is. You think you’ve looked at anything peculiar? Look to the general level of agreement of what is the history of this room, and you’ve got that, and you’ve buttoned that all up, and you’ve said, „That’s fine. That’s fine.“

And they say about Jesse James, the railroad drove him out and busted up the old folks and that sort of thing. It’s probably true, because the guy essentially wasn’t a badman. He just was mad at railroads and he was mad at bankers, and he sure did take it out on ‘em. And it says something, that his entire area and the whole country, actually, was all on the side of Jesse James. Everybody was on his side. And it took a banker and… and a guy who was glory-hungry to shoot him in the back.

Now supposing you as a crew suddenly decided to change the agreement about this room. Let’s have it become the throne room of the Bowderyap Dynasty in the year 22 – hundred. And uh… you decided that. Then you’d better be prepared to agree upon the Bowderyap Dynasty and why it was called that, and all sorts of interesting speculation, because you’re changing an agreement clear across the boards. It’s fascinating.

Uh… but the point is that uh… everybody goes all out for that kind of a bandit. Why? They realize that he’s… he’s just operating on too many motivators, that’s all. And he’s got all these overt acts and they did it to him, and so it’s a sense of justi… justice, this time, is running away from the police! I mean, it’s going the opposite direction. And people say, „Yup, that was just. Sure. Robin Hood and all that sort of thing.“ And people recognize it.

But as long as you’re in a stream of agreement that had to do with this room, you’re more or less picking up the designer and planner of this room and what he felt about the design and plan of the room. And it’s still here. And its alterations, and so forth, as you agree they have been altered and as you agree they will be altered, and so forth.

They say, „Well, the reason why uh… so-and-so was a bad man and so on was because…“ And now they give a long list of personal injuries which he himself suffered. For instance, Billy the Kid, who had had lots of good friends, and he had this kind of a reputation. He’d had a lot of bad things happen to him when he was a little kid. And uh… truth told, Billy the Kid couldn’t do anything wrong, really, in the public eye.

Of course, somebody with a higher level of agreement named force – force is not higher than agreement – but you’ve also agreed to something else; you’ve agreed that force can inexplicably and suddenly be applied to MEST objects for their destruction. And when you’ve agreed to that, you’ve agreed to alter the structure of all things, suddenly. Without your – permission or without your consent. And when you agreed to that, you agreed that force could affect and influence you without your consent.

And yet this fellow… this fellow was… he… he… was so overt act happy that he came up to a ditch one day where there was a couple of Mexicans digging the ditch – you see, he never counted Mexicans. No… no… no… no telling how many Mexicans Billy the Kid killed. He killed 21 white men, but Lord knows how many Mexicans, ‘cause he… this incident like this. He comes up to the ditch and there’s a couple of Mexicans there digging the ditch, and he just simply draws and shoots ‘em dead. His pal wanted to know „What’s… what’s the matter with you? What’s… what you doing that for?“

Somebody demonstrated to you one time – probably was stage magic – that something could go forward without your agreeing upon it, and made you an effect from that moment straight forward. Something would go forward. The truth of the matter is that if you’re batting like you ought to be batting, nothing could go forward without your agreement. And you’d simply, th… the… the brakes would go on and the walls would crash and the universe in which you’re existing, or you’d move out to your own universe or something of the sort. You’d just… just… this thing would go ‘Creak-krak! Bang!’ Because it just wouldn’t fit. You’d step outside of the screen of agreement, and that’s what I say about hitting that button suddenly about the screen of agreement.

„Oh, I don’t know. If they didn’t do anything, they would have done it.“

All right, that’s wandering enough on the subject.

So, as irrational as this may seem, justice shifts over very easily into the lap of the outlaw, and what he does then is… is justice, just because he’s… he’s… he’s motivator-rich, which means he’ll… he’ll indulge now in overt acts.

Oh, well, I’ve given… haven’t given you the rest of those. Uh… the… you scan the room and then there is a track called the ‘Imaginary Track’. The preclear’s track of what he imagines could happen to him. And he can get that. He can mock that up – the whole distance.

Now he goes down tone scale and he does a lot of these and he does more, really – just in terms of sheer quantity, arithmetical quantity – he does more overt acts now than he has motivators to account for it, so naturally some of them become DEDs. Now, instead of doing overt acts he’s doing DEDs. He’s used up the bank; he has done more… more things TO other people than have been done to him, so now he’s in a situation where whatever he does is a DED, not a deserved action. He’s used up his credit.

And uh… then there is the track by geographical location in time. Instead of scanning where he is in viewing facsimiles, he simply looks at the places where they are as they were. In other words, as he comes up the time track he scans through having been in Charleston, South Carolina in 1726. He looks at Charleston, South Carolina, 1726, and he flicks over then, and when he went from Charleston to New York, he flicks over and gets Charleston uh… he t… he gets New York, uh… two years later. You see? But he gets it in its proper space location. He’s actually flipping all around. Maybe it’s a benefit to scan all these things, I don’t know. Never scanned a preclear through all of these things.

Something like some fellows in Scientology: they had… lots of ‘em had lots of justification for doing lots of the things, because I’m a pretty mean, ornery guy. But they’ve used up their credit.

And then there’s the track of how he imagined these places should look, but he looks at them in geographical location. You see, there’s this immediate track right here in this room of where his location is, his imagined track, the agreed track, his facsimile track – you get these various things? So it really breaks down into just TWO things, pardon me, three things: It’s as it was – really looking at it as it was. That’s available. That’s beautiful visio too, by the way, because it’s uh… it’s uh…

And uh… well, now, let’s look at it the other way around now. What happens when he gets too many DEDs? Well, he’ll really rig it in such a way that he’ll sooner or later get a DEDEX. And one day he’s out and this little Mexican boy hits… hits Billy the Kid with a beanshooter – too many DEDs by this time – and he says, „Ow, ow, ow, what a terrible bruise. How I am injured. Uh… oh, my. Look what’s happened to me. Look how terrible this thing is.“ What he’s saying is, „Yes, I know I’ve done too many DEDs. Don’t punish me any more, because look, this beanshooter did all the punishment that I deserve. Heh, heh.“ Nobody else looks at it that way.

And then as he imagined it was, or should be, as it was, and then there’s his facsimile content on the whole thing. In other words he can do a mock-up on the whole track or he can look at it in its actual position and its actual time year, or you can do a mock-up on it.

So there he is; all of a sudden he’s sitting way down tone scale from where he was before. Now, you get neurasthenia, uh… hypochondria, uh… all sorts of weird manifestations, uh… you… for instance, you ever look at a preclear and ever have… the preclear obviously is not in bad shape at all. Obviously, they don’t even have a bad headache uh… or anything of the sort, and they keep saying, „Oh, my head. My headache bothers me so and this bothers me so and this… my,“ says, „my big toe. I have cuticura or something,“ and uh… uh… so on.

You see, when I say, when he does five things, I’m saying there’s just five things in which an auditor gets interested, he can do about eight thousand things. It’s just endless what you can do with perception. You can actually take a look at Carthage the day it fell. Sitting right here. And you can see the way Carthage fell. And you weren’t there. Take a look at it. You can also get viewpoints all over. You’re just investigating the havingness which was Carthage which is in the stream of existence – which havingness still exists because the agreement existed and because time is simultaneous, but you have stretched out time in terms of havingness in order to have action.

And you start healing up this thing and healing up that thing, and they… they go out and they bark their shins and they… they’re just very, very DEDEX hungry. They have a thirst for DEDEXes. They’ve got to have things happen to ‘em because they’ve used up their credit.

If you’re confused about all that, just run Standard Operating Procedure and make Theta Clears. Nothing to it.

This simply, if you understood banking uh… elementary banking or elementary bookkeeping, you would have a complete command of this type of exchange and interaction. It’s just a matter of credits and debits. He… he’s done too many things, therefore he’s in debt, and he has to be paid. So they pay him.

You can be, in other words, anywhere you want to be at any time. And you’ll find your preclear, when he regains this, is in very good shape. Boy this MEST universe becomes very alluring – fascinating. Lot of things been going on and this and that and he goes around and he says it’s like… like being suddenly given a ticket to all the motion picture shows, uh… wonderful.

Well, he’ll go out and pay himself if nobody else’ll pay him. There will be guys… these guys are dangerous. They’ll all of a sudden show up in the middle of the road asking to be run down. They will find it so impossible to get paid adequately that they have to practically kill themselves and take you with them. And they’ll come around and they’ll… they’ll stand right straight in front of you and say, „Yap, yap, yap,“ and you look at ‘em a moment and you get very puzzled.

Of course, he really isn’t satisfied to be a spectator. It’s maddening to him to see Carthage falling and he thinks he ought to pull the walls down and he’ll think it so hard that he ought to do a mock-up and he’ll throw a mock-up in there and pull a couple of walls down or something of the sort in an effort to change the havingness of Carthage. There’s a lot of people that were agreeing on that. Then if he wanted to pull the walls down of Carthage at the right moment so they’d fall on the right legion in order to win the battle for Carthage, he would have to be prepared to take the responsibility for the entire change of the Punic Wars. And if he was willing to take that responsibility, he would have to reach out then and take the responsibility for a complete alteration of the fate of Rome. That means that he would have to take responsibility for what he would then do by that consecutive action. He’d have to take responsibility for all of Christianity not existing. That guy just isn’t willing to take that much responsibility so he doesn’t change those agreements.

You say, „Aren’t you aware of the fact that if you continue to stand there and continue to say the things you’re saying, you’re gonna get your silly head knocked off.“

So when he pulls down the wall of Carthage he says, „I’m mocking it up.“ He’s actually very pleased about the whole thing. I don’t know, if we got somebody on the track right that minute, he’d probably develop a headache – he was part of that legion. A fellow gets very careful about this.

And the guy says, uh… „Well, yap, yap, yap, yap, yap, yap, yap, yap, yap, yap, yap…“ Pow!

Because you see how much responsibility a person conceives he’s able to handle, how much detail he’s prepared to handle and so on – you can have the whole cockeyed universe if you want it, but you, I’m afraid, have to take responsibility for every alteration that would take place because of that. You can have the management of any part of this MEST universe. Its laws kind of run backwards, but you might even repeal and change those.

And what do you know? He gets up and he says, „Yap, yap, yap, yap, yap“ some more. This is a weird one. This is… this is… this is really beyond belief. So you take the guy and… and he says, „Yap, yap, yap“ some more, so you take a club. You fracture his skull. He goes to the hospital, he’s non compos mentis for a while, he comes back. The next time he sees you he goes, „Yap, yap, yap, yap, yap, yap, yap.“ Boy, he has found a source of payment. He’s not going to leave you alone. And the bigger and more important you are, the better your reputation is and so forth, the better that payment is. Isn’t that interesting?

I’ll tell you a much easier one: Build one of your own and that… that way you can do anything you want to with it.

So he’s gonna come around… so your poor old gunman back in the early days, good God, they always had some damn fool standing up in the bar and saying, „Yap, yap, yap, yap, yap.“ And the fellow said, „If you say that once more, you’d better start grabbing leather.“

Now here we have, I… I’m very serious when I say there’s 80 thousand ways, or just thousands of ways of viewing tracks and viewing scenes, and there’s… you can… you can be here and view them there, you can be there and look forward in time and view yourself here. And so on. You see all these multiplicity of… of… all these com… complicated viewings and perceivings and so on, become possible because havingness regulates time, and when you decide to have the havingness of something in the past, you can have it. You can have it. But you don’t change it, you notice, and you’ll notice that you’ll have a terrible reluctance to even touch it. You don’t want anything to do with it. „That’s in the past,“ you’ll say. „That’s… that’s in the past,“ so you won’t touch anything in the past. Because if we do, we have to be responsible for the entire consecutive force reactions, clear on up to the – all this havingness will shift. It’s a simultaneous instant, as far as time is concerned, because it’s made by a postulate. Time occurs because of a postulate about havingness and about a particle shift.

And the fellow says, „Yap, yap, yap, yap, yap,“ and pulls out his gun and hi.“… the gunman watches him pull the gun out of the holster, cock the thing, level it, and then the gunman shoots him between the eyes. I mean, paw! He draws and fires.

So it doesn’t matter whether you’re moving the Empire State Building through your anchor points or moving an atom through your anchor points: they will look the same size if you have different concepts of your own size when you do it. Get that? Relationship.

He’ll say, „Can’t understand it. The guy wasn’t a fast draw; I didn’t do anything to him… I’ve only been in town an hour; I haven’t stepped on any toes; I don’t know a friend he has…“ And yet there he lies dead. It’s completely baffling. And the gunman feels a little bit silly about it. He… he feels upset. He’s been made to use one of his credits.

So, when you see one of these little, puny, hundred thousand kilowatt flows and you mock this preclear up and you say, „Now let’s take… let’s take a small flow – let’s take a hundred thousand kilowatt,“ and he says, „Gulp, oh, I, hmm…“ You say, „Well, take a… take a searchlight and turn it on yourself,“ nice mock-up, that sort of translates electrical flows, and he says, „Ohhh – I’m nervous about that. It’d hurt my eyes.“ And you say, „Well, take this… take this flashlight.“ „Oh, I can’t seem to do it.“ „Well take this little lady’s handbag penlight and… and… and flash it on yourself from 200 yards away.“ And he can do that. See how big he thinks he is? He thinks that these photons contain so much mass that they would destroy him if you turned a searchlight on him – that the photons could destroy an illusion or something.

So, now, this fellow who comes home from the hospital with a fractured skull, he’ll fracture his skull again, and he’ll still „yap, yap, yap.“ So there’s just no curing him of this till all of a sudden one day, you’ll just ruin him. ‘Course, he’s ruined you, too. But you’ve just ruined him utterly and he appears to be very happy.

His idea, then, of his size is so puny that… that anything like that could knock him flat. Well, as you start to build him up, he’s just as happy to take a 100,000 kilowatt lightning bolt and shoot it through the mock-up. He’s just got the idea that he can handle that much size, that’s all.

You say, „For Christ’s sakes. Now he’s not even going to take out any revenge. Now he’s happy. The hell with him!“

And that’s what you’re doing by gradient scale and why you use gradient scales. Really a gradient scale of size – that is, how big a space is he postulating in which this is happening.

What… what… what is this? This is the mechanism of life continuum; it’s another method of survival; it’s another method of borrowing identity. It adds up to this: If a person can make one do enough to him, then the person who does it to him has to do a life continuum for him, which is another method of making identity survive.

Now one of the strangest things you can do to a preclear is to tell him – uh… get him outside of himself and say, „All right, now think how big and powerful the body is, how much it helps you out.“ And he says, „Holy cats!“ And he starts looking up at this enormous body that goes about two or three hundred feet tall. It’ll happen every time. You say, „Think of how big and powerful and strong – how much you need this body.“ And here he is outside… this little… little thing and it looks up at this big body – ooohh! It’s scared stiff – that big!

Now, let’s go over that again very slowly, because it’s quite important and it will explain a very strange thing about human behavior to you. It will render a lot of behavior comprehensible. And that is simply this: we have here a situation where your… your fellow’s life, let’s say, is going from point X over here across the line. And he gets along all right to there and then he starts taking a dive and he knows he’s not surviving. He has done too many DEDs; his credit is all worked out.

„Now think how you handle this body,“ and the body goes „Neeeeeowwwmmm“ – gets about two feet tall, see. Just the difference of the thought. Think of that big, powerful body – 200 feet tall. Uh… now he says, „Big powerful me mauling that body around,“ – little tiny body. See, difference of particle size. How big does he think he is?

So he’s… he’s not gonna survive as his identity. He knows that he goes off and he gets knocked off between the between-lives area, these mannerisms his body has are cute, all these various things are sweet and nice and he doesn’t want to give these things up and he wants somebody to carry the ball. Now does he get somebody to carry the ball? He encourages somebody to do against him some DEDs, completely undeserved actions. There’s no… no deserved action at all.

Now that’s i… important to you in auditing because you will watch this size relationship – and if you don’t know what it is – you’ll watch this preclear and you’ll have him… a body’ll start swelling up on him. The body gets bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger. His relative size is such…

If you were to look at a graph as in A, here, on the life continuum… I mean – pardon me – this is your cycle of action and it starts in at… at uh… this X over here and goes over here to X1; this is uh… start, that’s stop. This fellow might be… might be a wide-open case, he… he might apparently even be young, he might be in all manner of… of uh… you wouldn’t think he’d do this. But he, on his wide spiral, is right over here toward stop, he’s way over on the are. He’s over here at point B.

„Now have that body eight light-years tall and reach one-sixth of the way up to the ceiling of the space you’ve postulated. Have it eight light – years tall and have it reach one-sixth of the way up to the ceiling you’ve postulated, and look at it.“ Boy, that fellow’s God right there, see. I mean, he’s sitting there looking at the body, and it’ll seem like that to him. You’ll say, „All right now, let’s mock-up some space and now, let’s put the Milky Way at one end of it – down there about a foot from your feet – that’s right. Now let’s put another galaxy up at the top of it. Now, let’s just lie there for a few minutes.“ And this guy starts to feel full of holes, he starts to get really airy, because he feels himself streching about halfway across the galaxy.

And there he sits at point B and he knows he’s passing in his chips. Don’t be fooled because a body looks vital. The thetan and so forth may be on his last legs of the spiral, and you’ll get these strange, strange manifestations. And they become very unstrange the second you understand this particular line.

Sometimes you’ll get a fellow to toast marshmallows on the sun, and uh… look at Earth or the moon someplace or another nearby. If you’ve got him in a body doing this, he will even change his concepts and so forth of his body’s size and density. The body, then, becomes very undense when you do this – becomes very thin, very gaseous. Feels that way.

So here he is up here in uh… figure 1, and he’s coming along here. This character in figure 1 is at point B on this spiral in figure 2, and he’s… too many, right here at this point, here, this point G; that would be called ‘too many DEDs’. He’s done too many DEDs. He’s also on his way out in other ways, mostly because he’s done too many DEDs. He’s used up all his credit.

But if he’s outside and he’s a thetan doing this, you want to watch something. You want to watch something. He will go up and sit alongside of the sun, just that big. You can actually pa… put your hands forward and uh… feel… feel the heat of it – he will. And you can get a thetan so he feels that big. He’s sitting up there alongside the sun. That’s where you get the idea of this infinite and unlimited size of God, see. You think God must be an awfully big boy to have made this universe, and uh… there you get this idea, „And God is big and I am small, so therefore he’s important and I’m not.“

Now, he’s got to accumulate a DEDEX, and he’s got to have somebody do a life continuum on him. Another method of survival; survival as self, survival as an identity. How does he get that identity to survive? He gets somebody to commit overt acts against him and DEDs against him because then they’ll have to do a life continuum for him.

Aww, you can be bigger than this universe, without any trouble. You can REALLY be bigger than this universe. You start building up your size concepts and so on, and uh… after you’ve gone so far you… you’ll start to… getting a little bit chary, because you move over into an ability to control energy, and then you move over into bigger spheres of controlling energy, and larger spheres of controlling energy, it’s really no enormous trick to reach over and pick up a couple of asteroids or a couple of little planetoids and bang them together – there’s no trick in it. Or pick up Earth and give it a good hard shove into the sun – hmmm.

So, here you come over here, Y, and you come along this line and you’re just as happy as can be, and you’re… and so on. And your life cycle’s about here and you’ll get at this same span in time, and all of a sudden, this character shows up. And he stands there and he lets you knock his block off. And he falls down and you knock his block off again. And you say, „Look. For Christ’s sakes, be reasonable. If you keep that up, I am going to take your guts out and string ‘em 32 feet away and torture the other end.“

Of course, you have to be willing to take responsibility for what happens. A fellow ordinarily thinks that over. He gets way up scale or his relative size can be that big and he isn’t interested in doing such a thing. It’d be a strange day when he would get very interested in doing it.

And he says, „I dare you to. You’re just looking for an excuse. You’re just being mean because… Uh… the trouble with you is, and people like you, that…“ Pow!

You see, it’d be too easy… it would be too easy to amuse Earth by mocking up pieces of matter and tossing them into the sun, so it would make the sun burn uh… pink, you know, or shoot off sparklets. Everybody on Earth… and then come back and be sitting down at your office desk and get all these great big news reports, „Fantastic astronomic display greeted observers! Some people said the world was coming to an end! Thousands mob the River Jordan in… in order to sell their property because Earth was coming to an end!“

So you take him down to the torture chamber and you put him on the rack, and he’s even passing out, he’s still insulting you. But what happens to you, Mr. Y? What happens to you? From this point in time G, you go downhill, too, but you’re strong (which he knew anyhow) and you’re Mr. XY, or Mr. YX, from there on. See here? From point small ‘a’ to point G, why, you were Mr. Y, and from point G on over here to the end of time, you are Mr. YX. Your behavior and activities is modified by having to do a life continuum for this fellow. You’re expiating for his crimes, actually. And he makes you do crimes against him so that you’ll do a life continuum for him.

You’ll get all sorts of weird computations like that. But you see, that’s interesting, that’s funny. That has an in… an insouciance. It isn’t funny to pick up Earth and throw it into the sun. The guy would be just stupid to do that, because look at all the audience he’d lose!

Isn’t that neat? It’s… I mean, it’s just… there’re several methods of survival and one could be called, in figure 3 here, one could be uh… self plotted against time, and that’s many identities; and here could be uh… your other dynamics, your culture – and your culture’ll go also through many periods. And, then, in addition to that, you have uh… your uh… personal one-life self; that goes on through its cycle of action. And then you have your personal objects one-life; that goes on. And then, what do you know? You’ve got your life continuums on others. Life continuums, actually, for self by others.

When it boils down to the final line, you ask, „Why should I do this and, why shouldn’t I do this?“ It’s whether or not it’s interesting. It’s because you get up scale like that, it certainly doesn’t get very important.

Now, a fellow’s always… always, these guys are always leaving wills, as though MEST objects had some importance. Oh, everybody’s always worrying, „Who’s going to inherit what and who’s going…“ He… all he’s saying is, „Who’s going to take care of these objects for me? Yeah, I’ve got to continue in survival through these objects.“ He’s saying here, uh… his personal one-life self is „Who cared for this body“ and „I cared for this body“ and now we’ve laid the body to rest; now we’ve got another one.

Uh… now another thing is when you start working on punishment of MEST bodies or something like that it makes you feel kind of guilty. It makes you feel like you’re picking on two-year old kids. How would you feel, for instance, if you suddenly started a terrible vendetta on two-year old children because they cried? Wouldn’t that make you feel funny? And you made it your life’s work to go around to all the houses and find any two-year old who insisted on crying and being disobedient and at that moment you insisted on being granted the permission to throttle him and bash his brains out… That isn’t… isn’t sensible, is it?

And then we’ve got a life continuum by others and we’ve got personal objects, one-life. And one of those personal objects is one’s name. Oh, you can… you can always get a rich man to in… to fix up some Mountains of the Moon or something of that sort on the strange feeling he has that you’re going to name a peak after him, and this makes his name survive. So that’s a survival of identity. His direction of survival: the great thirst for personal identity. The man… the man recognizes that he has an identity and he wants this thing passed along.

Well, whenever… whenever a fellow who is a little bit up scale starts to think in terms of being a police force against MEST, uh… humans or homo sapiens or something like this, it kinda feels that way to him, you kinda feel that strange way – not because you have even affection for the little kids, it’s… it’s just – how come? Even… no matter the enthusiasm with which you will occasionally stamp on an ant’s nest and that sort of thing. The truth of the matter is it’s far, far more interesting to find out what they do. And i… it’s just considerable admiration you put into that sort of thing. I mean, you look at the ant’s nest and you… you… you could open a burrow or something of the sort and see the eggs and all these ants go tearing around rescuing larvae and the soldier ants start parading up and down and whipping these worker ants into line so they can repair this and boy, they’re really making a terrific effort – that reminds you of the US Government out there trying to get a war contract going or… or something like that. It’s very interesting – it’s fascinating. And it’s much more interesting to observe the behavior of something in action uh… if you have no comparative communication with it except just perceiving it, than it is for you to engage in destructive action toward it. That… that’s not… not comparable magnitude.

Identities have two uses: one of them is to group and label something and another one is to do a vicarious survival for somebody. The… the first one is working; the second one, of course, is just idiotic. I mean, a man’s name; that… that’s very a… very amusing, when you come to think about it, this name.

And this idea of comparable magnitude – hit somebody your own size and so on – as a matter of fact, it’s no compliment to do that. There’s no interest to do it. It isn’t bad or anything. It’s just no… not interesting. Going out and killing ants, of course, if you go out, there’s one place in South America that you could go down, it would be given to you by the Government if you could kill the ants in it. It is covered with soldier ants, and it’s an enormous area of land which ought to be very fertile. And these ant armies go rolling across it from one end to the other. And boy, one of those ant armies hits something in a body, hits a goat, let’s say, or something like that, it just flows over the goat and keeps going, and they’re the shiniest bones you ever saw. And you could pick them up and there isn’t the least marrow in them. You talk about sanitary. Those bones are hollow. They’re all cured, dried – completely, after about ten minutes of ant army.

You look back, past the past and you see this… you’re very impressed; you read the word Lucretius. Well, he’s probably named Johnny Jones today and uh… or he’s maybe a very smart guy down at Bell Labs, or something like that. He’s going along the line. And uh… yet, the only reason you’re really using the word Lucretius is not for any other reason than it’s an identification of a piece of work which keeps it identified as that piece of work; and as long as it is so identified it cannot be corrupted or confused with the work of uh… I don’t know, Pope Pius, or something. You see? So it’s a differentiative mechanism; it’s a label.

Well now that’s… that’s quite a… quite an animal, because he’s a big animal and he’s a very strange animal and something like that. And you start to fighting an ant army you’re, by the way, going to find a central mind handling the army. These ants work from central direction. The ants don’t think, but it’s like some kind of a body directing cells in its operation. And that ant ‘mind’ is about on the order of a GE – I happen to know something about this. You’ll find a herd will attract to it a thetan of one kind or another who tends to take care of it and pull it together and so on. It’s fascinating.

You uh… find that in making products all the time. You go down here and you get the… the Gee Whizzer Electric Company’s refrigerator. The truth of the matter is, it might be some good, but most of the time is, it’s NO good. There’s no real reason why the Gee Whizzer Refrigerator Company isn’t well-known throughout the length and breadth of the land, and that’s mainly because their refrigerators are lousy. And you go down here and you get a refrigerator which is a GE and you know their refrigerator’s going to sit there and go pocketa-pocketa-pocketa-pocketa-pocketa; it’s gonna refrigerate.

You know what they used to talk about, they said, „Groups have got their own theta, seemed to attract theta,“ and so on. A group, quite normally, will get a… a patron saint or something of the sort. Somebody will suddenly elect himself and start taking care of a group. There’s all that theta, there’s all that motion, there’s all that ambition, and somebody will suddenly move in over the top of the group. That’s a fact. You can watch it happen. You can watch a group cohese.

So, GE, that’s… that’s an identity of a great sprawling organization, and uh… it’s just a… it’s just there. Uh… it’s a label, however, which can extend over and identify and serve to differentiate for people, objects. It becomes a symbol for many things.

And after you’ve created a group, don’t try to kill one. Oh, boy! You talk about tenacity to life! A group – even a bad one, even a sloppy one, even a weak one – resists death as thoroughly as any organism ever did.

The word Lucretius becomes a symbol for these many things. So it identifies a piece of work. And as long as that piece of work is grouped under the word Lucretius, it’s like saying any other combinations of words. You could say it was an ‘anaten’ or a… an ‘alertopad’ or anything of the sort. But people have got this spooky notion about personal survival with regard to a name. That’s very weird.

Group Dianetics is essentially the study of an organism. It is not the study of a number of units.

For instance, there’s been considerable insistence, continuous really insistence on my part that techniques developed and grouped under the heading of Dianetics and Scientology and so forth, well, they have my name on them. That’s very… very interesting. But you notice how this is… has uh… slowed down the squirrels. A piece of work was a piece of work. And look at the techniques which have existed in the field: those didn’t have my name on them. No time was spent on their research or they weren’t a body of data; some of ‘em were good, some of ‘em passable, and so forth.

Now your group, then, is how well they obey a central mind, or how well they act on their own initiative, determines the success of the group. So you have fascist type groups or you have individualistic type groups.

Well, we were sitting here with a body of data. I knew what I was doing: I was trying to get together a body of data. I wasn’t trying to make 8 million, 655 thousand bucks. Uh… I… I wasn’t trying to do a lot of other things. And then, of course, the joke of it is… is that… that although this body’s name is Hubbard, my name is not Hubbard. And probably nobody will ever know my name. And uh… it’s very amusing, when you come to think about it. It’s a jest.

Where that group is solely on the basis of uh… individual minds, all these individual minds and they’re kind of grouping together and arguing it all out, you get instead of action, parliamentary procedure. You don’t get… you don’t get action, where a group is low-toned individuals. And that group is prey to and falls under the rein of your fascist.

But uh… once a person realizes that, he realizes some of this life continuum mechanism by others is so much… so much bazwaz. It’s… it’s just… it’s just an identified object. The guy… the guy goes over in the level… he’s pretty low tone scale when he does this. He gets way down tone scale and he goes around insisting that people do mean things to him. And then he’ll come around to you as an auditor and he’ll tell you all these mean things people do to him.

But you get a group that’s higher in tone than that and each one of the group is capable of action, that group is most likely to attain to itself some sort of a directive influence. Now that directive influence is either a composite of the thinkingness done in the group, but that’s doubtful, because they don’t behave that way. And you take a group which is quite powerful, it develops somehow or other a patron. It’s a patron thetan of some sort here on Earth.

He… I know several… several rather risqué stories which I have heard at various places in space and on Earth, something about… „Are you bragging or confessing?“ Now, that’s… that’s very much to the point here. You want to look at this preclear when he comes in and tells you all the things wrong about him and how sad he is about these things; you want to look at him very, very closely and you want to say, „Are you bragging or confessing, Mister?“ He’s not confessing; he’s bragging.

It’s a very interesting study; somebody ought to study that a little more closely because you’re not studying the supernatural, when you’re studying it, any more than when we clear you, we are b… de… delving into the supernatural. We happen to have solved the supernatural a long time back. And uh… it’s become very routine – we know about what its limits are.

He’s saying, „Look at all this. I’m… I’m fully… I’ve… I’m… I’m… I’ve got all these credits here and I’ve had all these dreadful DEDEXes done to me,“ and the only reason he’s talking about it is he knows he’s lying in his teeth. He really basically knows he’s telling you a big lie when he tells you how bad off he is and that he’s been adequately repaid for all of his sins. ‘Cause if he’d been adequately repaid, he would feel no compulsion to brag about it; he would simply go back on the new cycle of raising hell with a whole flock of DEDs and overts.

But you get the idea?

So when he comes in, what do you run on this guy? He’s got a headache, he’s got a footache, he’s got an earache, he’s got… he’s… he’s got lumbagosis of the medulla oblongata and he’s got a distortional uh… he’s got tortional G space uh… all through his arithmetical ability. And there he is, and you’re expected to straighten him out. And what he’s really saying is, „Look how bad off I am. I have to go see a practitioner. Yeah, I’m really bad off. Yeah, look what they drove me to. Shows that I paid, I paid and I paid. And I’m all paid up and look at all these credits I’ve got. Here I am sitting here being given Scientology.“

Now… yeah, it’s there’s… there’s a lot of interesting stuff there – fascinating stuff. I mean, you want to get good and clear and take a look around at some of these groups and you’ll see them glow in different ways, and… and so on. You try to locate a beingness, you try to communicate, and all of a sudden you can communicate with a group – even… even a Kiwanis club or something like that has some kind of a low order, something or other hanging around.

Isn’t that cute? „And…and that demonstrates and that proves to everybody that I have therefore a superfluity of DEDEXes. I’ve got all of these motivators, all these things have been done to me, and I’ve got too many of them.“ And you take one away and he gets a little bit worse, and you take another… another motivator away and he gets a little bit worse, and you take another motivator away and all of a sudden he gets divorced. And his life starts going out of balance like mad, and you say, „What on Earth’s happening here?“

But you can also tell when a group doesn’t have it. And it’s just a bunch of units – it’s just not running – not functioning, it’s not cohesed yet.

Well, boy, what’s happening is but easy to trace: You made an incorrect evaluation of his credit-debit ledger. You said, „This guy has too many things done to him.“ You bought his evaluation. His evaluation was made in the MEST universe and therefore it is in reverse. Just therefore, it’s in reverse.

This doesn’t say that there’s a central intelligence that does the thinking for the group or anything of the sort. It’s just a fact that there is life there which is more than the composite life of the individuals in the group.

So if he came in to tell you how all these things have been done to him and that’s why he’s in horrible shape, oh-oh. You just run him doing things to people and he’ll get nicer and he’ll get nicer and he’ll get pleasanter and calmer. And he’ll keep telling you every once in a while, „You know, we… we really haven’t done anything about my gluteus maximus which my father used to kick all the time,“ and he’ll mention this less and less and less, and he’ll get cheerfuller and cheerfuller and brighter and brighter.

All this actually that an auditor has to know, rather than wander all around and speculate under the sun, moon and stars about this stuff, is simply on the basis of when you look at flows, you are looking at assumption of existence of; when you’re looking at pictures and perspectives, you’re looking at the energy resulting from postulates which have been agreed upon in some way or another.

And you’d think it was because he’s just realizing that he actually can stand up to life; you might rationalize it that way and say, „Well, by mock-ups we have convinced him that he could stand up to life.“ Oh, no. By mock-ups we’ve straightened out all of that superfluity of DEDs that he did. We’ve straightened that up very nicely and now he’s got a bank which has more motivators than he has overts and less DEDs than he has DEDEXes and so he’s become a cheerful, comfortable, calm guy.

The actuality of that energy becomes too real and is able to force itself upon the individual and affect him very seriously with flows when he has gone down scale on DEDs, DEDEXes, overts and motivators with flows, and he’s had to grant the reality of flows too often. And when he has granted the reality of these flows once too often, he can be seriously affected by them. IT’S TRUE ENOUGH THEY DON’T EXIST. It’s true enough THERE IS NO THING LIKE ENERGY. That’s true: But there’s a postulated particle, and to a fellow who is hit between the eyes with a bullet, no sir! That’s not the time to go up to this fellow as he’s lying there, hit between the eyes with a bullet, and explain to him that energy and matter really don’t exist. That’s the wrong time.

He knows that if somebody sits in front of him and says, „You’re a bum,“ that he has enough credit on the ledger in order to reach over and quietly and cheerfully and calmly garrote them. And he has now that right so therefore…

Uh… it isn’t either true that all is illusion and therefore is not existing. Uh-uh! Existence IS an illusion, and what do you know! For a person who is down in a level which is affected by flows, an illusion and a delusion and reality itself are composed alike of energy. They have that in common. Your preclear who cannot handle a good, solid mock-up is doing it because he’s not creating enough energy. He makes them out of energy. When he gets way up tone scale, he won’t make them out of energy ‘cause he won’t have to.

For instance, we got a… a… a… a preclear here, who… who is… who is actually… demonstrates that whole… that whole principle. This… this preclear has really had to slow himself down to a walk. But what you ought to run is this preclear doing things to people. This preclear is really in pretty good shape.

Why? Because he can park an agreement there that is so strong that – anybody who feels that agreement – I say, „So strong“ – it is such a clear, unalloyed agreement that anybody who perceives that there is an agreement there will actually, actively and immediately, perceive the object; they put the object there. That would be high tone scale essence of creation. You would simply say, „Here we have a beautiful maid – and now we don’t have one.“

But they will feel degraded; degradation, loss of self-respect and that sort of thing, comes out of this credit-debit ledger. Degradation is having asked somebody for a rank – that’s degradation enough – or having asked somebody for a category and then having had it taken away. In other words, force was so small that one had to apply to somebody else for force.

People right there when I did that, got a… got a turn on and off of it.

And then having applied to somebody else by force, even then he had it removed from him. He no longer had that force. That is degradation, loss of force on that scale.

Now you could put it there in such a strength that it doesn’t require MEST level communication. You could simply say, „Now at the corner of such and such a street, and such and such a street here in Philadelphia, will be a beautiful maid.“ And somebody who hasn’t even heard that will come walking along and say, „Excuse me, Miss,“ and walk on around her.

First he was of course his own authority: The guy goes out and by his own warrant tangles with the universe. Somebody comes along to him and says, „Where’s your commission?“

Why? You’re putting a high order of agreement and making somebody else furnish the energy. Now when you can’t do that, you go out and hire a model and dress her up in clothes you buy from a store and all this. You buy these agreements. You get all these agreements, these combined, super – combined agreements that everybody’s agreed upon and you know everybody’s agreed upon and you’re sure they’ll agree upon this too and you put the girl on the street corner so the guy will step sideways and say, „Excuse me, Miss.“

And he says, „My what?“

You could put up a… an agreement or a postulate and you could hang it in one space. You could just say, „It’s there.“ Here’s some space and here’s a postulate. And it could exist there with strength. But what keeps it from being strong? Well, it’s the fact you didn’t know it was strong, that’s all. I mean, that’s very simple. Uh… you must… when you put up this thing, you say, „Now I guess this will work, and I’m not quite sure, and we’ll try this out, we will test it.“ That’s how people really cut their throats in this universe, saying, „Well, we’ll experiment with it.“

„Where’s your commission? Where’s your license to survive?“

You have to have terrifically high generalized agreement all around before anybody will come off of that one: „We will experiment with it.“ If you experiment with it and everybody agreed on it beforehand, then they’d say, „Oh, yes. It’s true.“ But if you were to suddenly make a postulate… There’s some character or other, somebody said he was cleared. He’s about as Clear as muddy water. Uh… he said that uh… he keeps echoing one of our axioms, and uh… he keeps saying all you have to do is… is just uh… uh… generally agree with the postulate and it can become a reality. And by this he tries to make out, then, that you… anything you thought up could be true. I mean, that’s really… really a mucked-up line of thought. Then anything that you, for instance, as a group would state with great authority would be true. I’ll be damned if it would! You as a group and the space that you’re in could sit here all day and all night and say, „There are no trains running on the Pennsylvania Railroad tracks.“ And you could go down there and there they’d go! There they’d go.

This guy’s liable to lean on them rather heavily and they go down to a small splash and say, uh… „Do people around here need a license to survive?“ He feels mighty tall: „All right. I’ll give you one.“ He’s his own authority and operates by his own warrant. He executes in complexity; he does not feel that he needs anybody’s permission.

And we’re dealing with that order of reality when we’re dealing with good, solid processes. Now it’s all right for guys to sit around in the back woods and say, „These processes don’t work. These processes don’t work. These processes don’t work. And the reason they don’t work is that if they worked, somebody’s liable to get ahold of me and audit me and I’d have to take some responsibility for my own actions – which I can’t ever permit myself to do. So, these processes don’t work.“

And then, being in this universe, this debit-credit justice-injustice something comes in. The reason it comes in is purely because of flashback, you understand. When he hits Joe, he gets the reimpact of Joe’s pain. And this gets mixed up in every impulse to hit Joe. And his own feeling of… great feeling of competence and everything will disintegrate because he feels very competent and all of a sudden he feels pain. He feels very competent; he cuts Joe’s throat, zzzt, and he feels pain.

And that doesn’t affect it at all. You go out here, and you grab your preclear off the street and you sit him down in the chair and you say, „Now black and white, run.“ – You say to yourself, „Black and white running.“ –

The reward, then, for cutting Joe’s throat is pain. So he gets this double-flow action and it convinces him at last that there is a debit-credit system at work in the MEST universe. And so therefore he has to have justification in order to do what he does. But that’s silly, too, because the flows still keep catching right on up with him. It doesn’t matter how much – quote – ‘justice’ there is behind one of these flows, really. It’s just a little bit better if it’s motivator-overt, and so on. A flashback is a flashback. When you fire a gun, it kicks. A guy accumulates too many kicks and after that he gets his credit system all upset.

„All right, get something white. All right. Get it black. Now get it white.“

So, let’s look at this, then, life continuum. Realize that there’re a lot of people around asking for things to be done to them and a lot more people around asking to do things for somebody else. Those two things alike have to do with this credit-debit balance of flows.

Black and white running. You say, „Look for an engram.“ If he’s not too occluded, or if you pull another trick that I’m going to tell you about a little later today, uh… he can see his facsimiles going by. And by running them two or three times, erase them.

And wherever we look on this cycle of action we’ll find out that a person doesn’t start asking for a license to survive until he’s gone past center on the overall MEST universe cycle. He’s… he’s got to be past center before he starts worrying about this.

You grab a guy out there that’s just been hit by a streetcar, you give him an assist, he’d be walking in a few hours. If you hadn’t given him the assist, he’d be sick for three or four weeks. You get the idea? I mean, you’re not working with that same level of agreement.

If a person worries about flows, or if flows have entered in, and he’s at a point of the tone scale where flows badly influence him, he can then count more and more upon being responsive to flows. And of course the flows are all backwards and he eventually winds up in a heck of a mess.

You’re working with a composite agreed-upon agreement which is something on the order of Pennsylvania Railroad trains going up and down the track. The reason why, is… is there’s been all kinds of agreement on the fundamentals back of these operational functions. Oh, you’re just dealing with this horrendous mass of agreement; on every hand people agree to this. And agree to it all through the universe, not just here on Earth. That’s the universe. It’s sitting here and it works that way and that’s how minds work and that’s how thinking is done in this universe. That’s a different level.

Now, when you’re doing mock-ups then you have to pay attention to this, with preclears who are low on the scale. It’s actually much… really more important, the way I view it, uh… to pay attention to space rather than to flows. It’s more important to stake out space. If you’ve got a preclear who’s kind of bad off sometime, just have him practice with anchor points and maybe just have him put out… put out eight anchor points; you know, eight corners, make himself a cube.

But now let’s get you up along the line where you do not even vaguely have to think in terms of the MEST universe and yet you can firmly pick up and translate into your own an anchor point of the MEST universe. You can go down and you can say, „This fire plug in this street corner and this telephone pole on the corner of that store are now my space.“ Really say that, see. And you know it’s your space. Just to make sure you make the sidewalk go ‘zong-zong!’, and turn red, turn blue, turn into marble plated with gold – bang! „Yeah, that’s my space.“

Just make him practice that, and hold ‘em, no matter where he is, and just snake him hold ‘em for a little while. You’ll get the strangest manifestation takes place: the guy starts to get calm. He recognizes instinctively, really, the only space there is for him is the space he makes. The anchor points that are made for him are not anchor points for him.

Okay, you’ve got a piece of space nailed out. Now you simply say, „Anybody who comes along this street now is going to see a very beautiful girl standing in the middle of this space,“ and they’ll be able to walk through the space too. And you know that’s going to happen, that’s all. Complete certainty, and so on.

So, when you get your preclear mixed up with flows, why, you can expect all these silly things to take place: life continuums and DED-DEDEXes and he comes around and he’s got a headache and he’s got a headache because he kicked somebody in the head when he was much younger, and it’s all backwards. He complains to you that he needs treatment, so you run out of him all the mean things he’s done, and he gets well.

There is such… no feeling that you have to agree with the MEST universe just beyond that one point. You do have to agree with the MEST universe to the degree of making a coincidence of anchor points in space. Theoretically people could walk along the street and tip their hats to that – girl. And they would say, „My God! Where did this solid gold sidewalk come from?“ And they’re putting the sidewalk there all the time. They walk over the sidewalk and they put it there.

Now, if you want to repair a marriage… you can wreck marriages, as an auditor, with great ease. Just process one of the marital partners without processing the other one. The thing’ll fly out of balance like mad! And you’ve got to put it back in balance again somehow or other; you just keep an eye on it and make sure it doesn’t go too bad before you pick it up.

Now if you were really hot, they could really take a jackknife and take off pieces of the gold and take it down to the treasury and cash it in. But what would it take? You’d have to conceive yourself to be as big as the total agreement of the universe plus a little bit more. Interesting, isn’t it? Your… you’d have to be big, in your own mind and certain about what you were doing and completely unworried about whether or not it was going to happen. And if you could achieve that – like they say, „The way to make gold is to go on top of that mountain and sit down at midnight on the 2nd of August and do… go through this formula, but don’t at any moment think of the word ‘hippopotamus’, because at any moment you think of the word ‘hippopotamus’, the lead is not going to transmute into gold by this formula.“ Now, look at… there the guy goes!

All right. Now, let’s get this uh… you… overt act-motivator. So we process out of somebody a whole lot of… we process out of him a whole bunch of DEDs. Oh, God. We… we get… we get him doing acts out here with mock-ups and boy, we get him bashing people’s brains in and bashing people’s brains in. You’d think automatically that this would bring him way down scale to a point where something or other was going be bad, or something. Oh, no. He gets brighter and brighter and more alert and more alert.

But what do you know! That really is the test! Silly as it is, it is the test. A fellow has to have such supreme, cocky, self-confidence that he’d say, „You said not to think of the word ‘hippopotamus’? Hah!“ And he wouldn’t. See, no anxiety about it. When you can produce a thing of that anxiety, that stable frame of mind, you can make it stick. And if you can’t, you can’t. But the way to reach there is by a gradient scale.

You see, what you’re doing is really running out all the debits. You’re putting him, as far as this universe is concerned, so he can go out and raise hell. And he does. And he goes home and he… frying pan, customarily, as he usually gets inside the door, frying pan usually greets him, hits the wall alongside of him. And he gets inside the door this time, he usually says, „Thank you dear,“ and creeps over to the chair and sits down and says, „Is supper ready, dear?“

And thus the reality of flows. People say flows exist, they all agree they exist. If your size is such and the particles of flow are such that they could destroy you, believe me, they can destroy you! You’ve agreed to the fact they existed, you’ve agreed to the fact that they destroyed you, you’ve agreed to the fact that they’re very, very dangerous to you and you’ve done all this. And now all of a sudden you’ve found out what you’ve agreed to. It isn’t the fact that you’ve found out again that they agree that it’ll destroy you. No. You haven’t agreed to that all over again. You agreed to that a long time ago. You’ve found out what you agreed to – and they start losing their punch.

And he… frying pan hits alongside of the door this time and very cheerfully he picks the frying pan up and he goes out on the front walk and he sharpens up one side of it… And he goes to work. And of course this is a great surprise to the… to the girl in the case, and she decides all is lost because she sees her control mechanisms unbalanced and she has a stranger in her midst. She gets really upset.

The reason they start losing their punch is a very good reason: Is, you’re walking back up the track of agreement, and you’re hitting a higher and higher and higher level of power in order to make a differentiated agreement. Until you can stand completely different at 40.0 from the entire MEST universe, impinge yourself upon the MEST universe, and make an agreement TAKE PLACE. Different thing, see? Entirely different thing.

And she doesn’t take into account – because the GE is a family man; the GE is lost without a family. Uh… it’s very strange, but homo sap is a family unit. The GE is built on that basis. It’s fascinating, fascinating. If you wanted to study the GE, you… you’d really get yourself some data about what could happen in this universe. It’s not important for you to know it, but a lot of your urges toward families and so forth are not thetan urges at all; they’re the GE. The GE can’t survive at all without a family unit. He’s just as dead as a mackerel if he isn’t a family unit, whereas your thetan is just as dead as a mackerel if he gets too mixed up in family units.

OK. Let’s take a break.

So you get this terrific starvation, family starvation, and so forth, for the GE. Your GE runs… you see, he’s lost… he’s lost his independence of action and so on, and for uh… passing along this line and uh… so on, this terrific dedication that he has, fabulous piece of dedication; he feels this terrific responsibility for getting this… this life continuum going. He’s got to continue himself.

That’s… you find that in cells. When a cell divides, what do you know? it duplicates its memory bank and hands it over to its progeny. Well, Man thinks he’s doing this; when he duplicates himself, the GE duplicates itself, it thinks it’s handing its memory bank over, and maybe it is. Who knows? You can’t talk to GE’s; they’re kind of psycho. They’re really monomaniac. Boy, are they conservative, too. Whee! They’re really stuck.

They’re very able, though, terribly able. This thing can come along and it builds a heart and it’s a good heart. Gosh! If somebody was a master craftsman down here working in a machine shop that could build as uniformly, pistons, as the GE can build hearts, that guy would really be at the top of his class for all time.

So, you see, the GE has his capabilities; they just don’t happen to be necessarily the finest capabilities there is. And by the way, you can fall into this dreadful trap with a GE; you see, he uses the MEST universe with which to build. He’s gotten very s… very bad off and he… he has to use MEST universe materials all the time, and the protoplasms and so forth which have been developed back across this… this protoplasm line back there, he has to use that, and he has to use all of these various things in order to construct and construct and construct.

He jumps around on lines, by the way, but he’ll… he’ll give the initiative to the protoplasms and some of the blueprints which he finds on the protoplasm line. So you get similarities of appearance in families but complete changes of character, as far as the body is concerned. And then you add a thetan in on it and, boy, do you get some wild ones. Another identity.

So, you… you get this… you get this uh… situation here with uh… the GE, and your GE is busy, uh… build, build, build, build, build, and of course he’s got to have a family to build with. And your GE has lost out completely as far as the First Dynamic is concerned. He isn’t worth hell room on the First Dynamic. He just isn’t. He will lie down and perish rather than work alone, for himself.

Guy goes out here and he sits down in a little… little apartment someplace, and he reads, reads, reads, and he writes down this poetry, and he reads, reads, reads, and writes down the poetry, and he goes back and he works someplace or another in order to get enough money to go back and read, read, read, you know. Not your GE, no sir.

A thetan’ll do that, and the guy could be driven to do that. But if he’s in close association with the body, he just finds it impossible to do that. He feels he has no motive. That’s because the body has no motive. That’s because he doesn’t have a family unit. That’s what gives him his goals. He’s… he’s got a goal then, a MEST goal, a lineage goal, and all that sort of thing. You get this terrific family thirst. And you get your GE surviving best and being loused up the most because of interfamily relationships.

That doesn’t necessarily mean that your thetan is even vaguely aberrated on this line. Your thetan is much more interested in a higher level debit and credit system of what he himself has done to himself, by himself, and for himself. And your thetan, by the way, can much more easily go into a group. Families are not good groups; they’re bad groups.

So, all this stuff applies more to homo sapiens, because of the GE, than it applies to a thetan. You’ll see this whole picture change in an individual after you have theta cleared him and brought him up toward cleared theta clear.

Until you’ve done that, remember this debit and credit proposition and the gross nature of flows. if the fellow has been flowed in upon too much, he’s gonna outflow. If he hasn’t been flowed in on enough, he’s gonna inflow. That’s all there is to that.

Okay. Let’s take a break.